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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:23:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans.
And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari?
They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:53:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. We are not justifying any form of discrimination. We are merely stating that discrimination is rather small and only practiced by isolated members; thugs and backwards vigilantes. The majority of Matar live free of any form of persecution in Gallante space.
Poor and in slums. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:11:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:By the total flux of these reports coming in, it would seem this is not something small happening within the Federation. Also the Amarr and Caldari have a mutually respected relationship, do not expect such uncivilized acts of violence to spawn between us. Sources? Not a single one of you have provided a source for this accusation, apart from one completing undermining this and showing one of the Matari killing our people.
An Amarrian was not the source of this report. it was matari in orgin. You should be dealing with them to prevent such discrimination rather than preaching your egalitarian gospel to those who would treat them them better. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.08 00:46:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. We are not justifying any form of discrimination. We are merely stating that discrimination is rather small and only practiced by isolated members; thugs and backwards vigilantes. Though ignorance is widespread among the poor and uneducated. Precisely why the Federation has been focusing on high education for all citizens. Even those in the far edges of the Federation who live in barely stable colonies. The majority of Matar live free of any form of persecution in Gallante space. Where all citizens are born equal. Unlike some places where they are enslaved to others...
I wish you much luck with that initiative, all peoples are deserving of proper education... though I doubt much besides pro Federation Rhetoric is likely to be on the curriculum. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 01:34:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. We are not justifying any form of discrimination. We are merely stating that discrimination is rather small and only practiced by isolated members; thugs and backwards vigilantes. Though ignorance is widespread among the poor and uneducated. Precisely why the Federation has been focusing on high education for all citizens. Even those in the far edges of the Federation who live in barely stable colonies. The majority of Matar live free of any form of persecution in Gallante space. Where all citizens are born equal. Unlike some places where they are enslaved to others... I wish you much luck with that initiative, all peoples are deserving of proper education... though I doubt much besides pro Federation Rhetoric is likely to be on the curriculum. We believe education should be non biased; education should be factual and non aligned. This is the reason there are so many views in the Gallante Federation. Anyhow, I doubt that Amarr children are educated on the opposing views of the Empire. For example; I highly doubt that they are taught on why exactly most all other states look down on slavery. In the Gallante Federation we teach the exact views of all people. We believe in playing the Devil's advocate. It is a favorite pass time among Gallante intellectuals. It helps us to put things in perspective and prioritize our objectives. We are a people of many views.
They are not educated about it at a young age lest they, in their youthful impetuousness embrace such ideals to their demise. There are many more things to learn at a young age, from the scriptures to the histories of the Amarr peoples.
If you did teach such views your people would not be as ignorant as they are, however when you are lucid I do so enjoy our discussions. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.08 02:07:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Humble Seeker wrote:Void Echo wrote:finally, now maybe we can get the caldari to turn on the amarrians, anyone got 3 tril isk with them? Pretty sure that Caldarians are more than a bit wary on making deals with the Gallentean Government at this point, wouldn't you say? Nothing intended in bad taste, just pointing out an obvious one you seemed to miss. I meant that someone could individually pay them to attack you amtard
why would they? ISK is core to the function of their culture, but not in its spirit where loyalty, duty, and honour are vastly more important. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.08 03:52:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. Adamance you are now doing the samething that knight guard fury is doing,accusing all the gallente doing those acts.
No I'm merely asking a question. I infer your previous troubles with the Minmatar as you preach your egalitarian mantra and wonder why do you don't simply rise above the violence done unto you and turn the other cheek? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.08 10:01:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote: Seem that you accuse every gallente taking part in those racist and violent acts against minmatars,acts which in reality only a small part of the Gallente are guilty. Dont forget that minmatars also do/has done violent/racist against galleteans. And this justifies your acts? Continuing acts of discriminations against the Matari? They are wasted with you. As children of God they should be with their brothers and sisters in the Mandate. Adamance you are now doing the samething that knight guard fury is doing,accusing all the gallente doing those acts. No I'm merely asking a question. I infer your previous troubles with the Minmatar as you preach your egalitarian mantra and wonder why do you don't simply rise above the violence done unto you and turn the other cheek? How do you feel about the Minmatar population committing violent acts against our small population of Amarrian people. Currently it seems, that peoples of the mainsstream Amarrian belief are one of the most persecuted groups in the Federation.
Where was this statistic generated? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.09 22:32:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:
Hell I let them still practice customers that unite and strengthy family bonds as I feel that's somthing that as weakened in the empire. If u find any holders who mistreat those under their care and fail to educate please inform me so I can book in a quick vist from the paladens
Oh really? I seem to recall that you nigh on exterminated a people over them keeping a few of their customs. In addition, I'm quite certain that Lord Falek Grange mistreats those in his care. I.E. by killing them by the score.
Falek Grange is not Holder, or lord amongst the Amarr, any who mistreat their slaves are under supervision, but you must remember Arkena that is is more difficult to move upon an Amarrian household that it is to send the Feds in to capture a criminal in your society, and the Speakers of Truth cannot be everywhere. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.11 03:11:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:((Also as an OOC note: |
Lore wise, as an ammarian Templar or other loyal clone soldier, you would never be offered land or slaves. Amarrian belief says that cloning destroys the soul, damning the man. The Templars were tools of necessity, the blessed damned souls who would give their lives over and over for the empire knowing they would never see paradise themselves, and hoping that perhaps their deeds could earn them salvation after all.
If you're gonna RP Amarr...do it right))
(( I know this that's why its written into my characters bio that yes Kador does feel damned because of this, however it does not mean to him that he cannot still believe in his god and therefore the service he does still have meaning to him, you basically summised some of the more important sections of Kador's lore)) |
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